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The Fourth Dimension

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Omega Message – November 2005

Cecil duCille

(Message given November 2004 at the Sonlight Gospel Convention in Schuyler Nebraska.)

Father, we submit our hearts and our ears to you. We pray Lord God, that we might hear Your voice tonight; that You might quicken us with Your Spirit and that the Words that are spoken will come directly from the throne of God. Oh Lord God, anoint our hearts; anoint our ears; grant us strength to hear your Word and that the Word become flesh. Hallelujah! Become a part of us. Hallelujah! That we don’t be like people that hear and hear and hear and never produce. But tonight, that the Word of God might form in us a new man and that we might do that which the Word requires. Hallelujah! In the name of Jesus, Amen! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

We sing of the Blood of Jesus Christ and I just want as a preamble, before I go into the Word, the thought that came to me while we were singing this song – that the scripture says in Isaiah 53 said “By His Stripes we are healed.”

I always wondered ‘Why Lord, by His stripes?’ Didn’t the blood come from His side? Didn’t the blood come from the wounds in His head? Didn’t the blood come from His feet? Why did the scripture say “by His stripes we are healed?” Then I realized that God was saying – that the first blood that was drawn was by His stripes. It was that whip across His back that took the first blood and from the first drop of blood that was shed, we were healed. Hallelujah! By the first drop of blood we were healed. It is just a thought that blesses me and I want to pass it on to you. Hallelujah!

I want to talk of – I hope it is not too highfaluting. I want to talk about the Fourth Dimension.  The fourth dimension that God spoke about in the scriptures, where He wants us to be. Hallelujah! I don’t think that we can get there by human effort, but I think we can get there by human effort. (laughter) Amen. In other words, if we have the energy to submit to God, He’ll take us there. But it takes a lot of energy. It takes a lot of overcoming. You know, we were talking in Tulsa of the things that we have to overcome. The first and most desperate battle is to overcome that ancestral spirit that is in you. In that part of you, in your own being, you are going to have to overcome your own being before you can get there; and to overcome – you have to suffer. It is peculiar, you have to suffer.

God came to Abraham and He said to Abraham, ‘Abraham, I want you to go up on a hill that I will show you and I want you to offer your son Isaac.’ Now you think of it, a man is 90 years of age and he never had a child and all of a sudden God gave him this child. And God promised him that this boy would be the father of many nations, as the stars of the sky – so would his children be.  Then one morning, God called to him and said to kill him. I don’t know what Abraham was thinking, but he was the father of the faithful. So let us assume that he was thinking that God was going to bring him back again and that he would be the Messiah. Let’s assume that.

But then, Abraham knew his wife. It was too much for a woman. It would be too much for any woman here. I would like you to tell me who could take this. You never had a child until you were over 80 and this child is the promise of God and you see your husband take up a knife to stab him to death. What would you do? Would you take it? She couldn’t take it. Abraham knew that he couldn’t tell his wife.  He couldn’t tell his wife. He said, all right, we are going to a hill that God will show us to offer a sacrifice. God wants us to do that. And she says, okay. She might have packed their lunch and everything and sent them off.

Abraham had a man to carry the donkey. He had the boy, Isaac with him and he went to the spot. God showed them a hill. The amazing thing about that hill is that hill is place where the mosque of Omar is sitting over the stone upon which Abraham offered Isaac. At that hill. Of course it was no city there and nobody lived there and God said, ‘I want you to go up that hill and offer him as a sacrifice.’ So he said to the boy, okay, take the wood and he put the wood on his shoulder. He took his knife and both of them began to ascend the hill. So the boy said to Abraham, Hmm, that’s peculiar. We have wood, we have fire, but where is the lamb for the burnt offering? And God put it into Abraham to prophecy. He said, God himself will be the lamb. The boy didn’t understand, but he went along with him.

They came to the spot and all of a sudden Abraham began to tie the boy and because the type had to be correct, the boy didn’t fight him. I can imagine some of the fights that you young men would put up. When you see your father tying you, he has gone loco. He has gone crazy, he is going to kill me and fight and run. No Sir. It says the boy was humbly there allowing him to tie him. He lifted him up on the stone. By all this time, the man had a struggle, a royal struggle in his heart. Consider yourself – What would you do? A royal suppose, it was the devil who was talking to me – NO-NO-NO-NO! That is the voice of God.

Do you know how you know different the voice of God from the voice of the devil? When the devil’s voice talks to you, you are disturbed. You are disturbed. When God talks to you, there is an absolute peace. There is no doubt. You know it is God. Abraham never doubted that it is God. Abraham was struggling within himself though – to kill my son! To kill my son! I’ll never live over this. I’ll never get over it. To kill my son. He decided, GOD’S WILL BE DONE. In his heart, he made up his mind. He took the knife and he bent to strike the boy and the angel stopped him. What blesses me, is the Word that he spoke when He stopped Abraham. He said, ‘Now I know you Abraham.’

How could God not know the man before? Why would God say that ‘He now knew him”?  Do you know why? Because the Abraham that walked up the mountain was not the Abraham that was there. He had a change in him. He became what God wanted him to become. He went up another dimension and he would not come back down from that dimension for the rest of his life, because he now knew God and God called him His friend. Yes, God said Abraham was His friend. Now that is the greatest designation that a human being could ever receive from God – that the Almighty God says that, ‘You are My friend’.   So Abraham was made, created that day. Amen. Hallelujah!

I had a problem in my life. We grew up in the West end of Kingston, 6-7 of us boys, and we would fight. We just had WAR in our blood. It was a happy time to be fighting on the street or somewhere else. If we didn’t have a fight for a long time, we would Play-Fight and just fight as rough as anything else. But it was something in us that we knew nothing about, how it got there, but it was an ancestral spirit. Hallelujah!  The ancestral spirits come from your background. It might have been in Africa, or in France, but originally it came from the Adamic nature. For all of us have this Adamic nature, whether it be for one way or another. But our portion was to fight. Hallelujah!

Now, when I got saved, I thought that all of this was over. I mean, I shouted, I danced, I was so happy. Amen. My brother and I, we would sing together and dance all over the platform. The Church of God people, they took us for granted. But the truth is, that I thought that I had lost all of the ancestral spirits that had plagued my life. Amen. I mean, something was in my life – God was hounding me as a young man, following me, saving me. YES! I was saved out of positions that nobody else could be saved from. I was in a position where I held down a man to kill him. When I was coming down with the blow, I said, ‘Well God, if you can save, save now!’ Immediately I was translated from that spot to a quarter mile down the street. As I stood down the street, I saw the man on the ground – looking around – can’t find me. the blow that he expected to take his life wasn’t there and I was down the street and I knew it was God. I KNEW GOD THAT DAY!

The anger that I would have. Sometimes this anger would take me for a week straight, two weeks that I couldn’t get myself back to normal. I would be just gasping – sometimes (Hhhew; Hhhew; Hhhew; Hhhew;) like that. I couldn’t help it. I didn’t have it in me. Hallelujah! And ‘he’ wouldn’t let go. Sometimes a whole week I couldn’t get free from this anger. When the Spirit lifted me and landed me down the street, I was immediately ‘sober’. No anger, I lost the anger at that time. So I got to know God. Hallelujah!

I got to know God. So when I got saved, I thought that I was free now and boy, it was ‘joy unspeakable’. I mean, I danced; I shouted; I was so happy. Amen. But one day, I was in my office, as I did sometimes, I would stretch my legs; walk down to the stable; I was an accountant at the government farm. I walked down to the stable and I saw two men fighting. One was taking advantage of the other. BAM – he knocked him down. He picked him up and – HwwwoooM! He knocked him down. I couldn’t stay there. I couldn’t take it, so I rushed in and I held one, the man who was beating him.

I said, ‘Are you going to kill him?’

‘Yes, I want to kill him.’

You know, that is the anger that he had. BUT something out of the man, jumped into me. All of a sudden I was transported back to the street and it was like a street fight. Remember, I have nothing against him. I’m not angry at anybody. I’m a peacemaker, but the man began to resist me, to get to kill the other man. But the more he resisted, the more…and all of a sudden something went “CLICK” in me. So I slipped on my knee like that and when he charged me, I got him over my shoulder and I RUN WITH HIM. And I’m running with this man and I’m saying to myself – remember now, I am an officer of the government. A worker cannot fight an officer, or else you will be immediately arrested and never come back on that farm. In other words, he should have obeyed me when I told him to stop.

So I am running with this man on my shoulder and I am saying to myself, ‘I’m going to just put him down and lecture him.’ Right! So I ran to the wall. Now I don’t know if you people around here know what is called a dry wall? In other words, a wall that is just packed with stones, no cement in it, it is just packed with stones about this high. So I was going to put him down on the wall and lecture him and tell him; you know; put him in order. But when I got to the wall, I found myself SLAM the man down on the wall and the wall scattered and the man was dazed.

I said ‘Why did I do that?’ Now, I am in a temper now. I am gasping and mad and I had to run. I ran back to my office. I said, ‘My God, I thought you had taken this thing away from me. I thought I was free. Now I am in trouble, I am not free. I’m going to lose my ministry, because here am I ministering to all these people having all these miracles. And then – smash the man on the wall.’ So I am in trouble. I stopped eating; I stopped eating and began to fast.  So I said, ‘God, I prefer to die than to live with this thing.’ Amen. I must overcome this ancestral spirit NOW, or I will die; I will not eat.

I don’t know how long it went on, but I didn’t know whether I was delivered or not. So one day I am in the office. I am promoted now and sent to a new office and I have others working with me. So this young man came in and they said he is going to be your assistant. To cut a long story short, the guy was sitting down across the desk. My desk was here and his desk was over there.  I said, ‘Billy, unless you do better, I don’t know how I can work with you, because everything that you do, I have to do it over. You don’t set one figure right. You just have everything wrong. You’ve not been paying enough attention.’ So I am just there writing and SUDDENLY – I SAW A FIST COMING UP TO MY FACE! I jumped backwards and the chair flew out from under me. The man was at me – right – left – right – left! I’m praying! I said, “My God, Help ME NOW! Don’t let me hit him!” You know my arms sometimes jumped you know. The devil was there, showing me every mistake that the man made. He would lift his hand up to strike me like this and the devil would say –‘Hm, get him like this!’ and I said, ‘NO LORD!’ I don’t think I should live if I should beat up that man.

It continued, it looked like an age – a long time – but it may have been just a few minutes. Finally I got against the wall, and the man threw a left cross like this! It caught me here and it cut the skin off of my chest from this over to the other side. I did like this and brought up my muscles and the man rolled off and fell against the wall. He got up and went to his seat. Brethren, I felt a bubbling; a bubbling coming up. I started to laugh. It was the first time in my life I was ever able to – GOD GAVE ME THE VICTORY! THAT DAY THE DELIVERANCE CAME! I went a notch higher. Hallelujah! From that day to this day, believe you me, I have never taken these hands and hit anybody. Neither have I had the inclination. Remember – you know, I was a fighter. I was fighting every day I had to have some spat to keep myself in practice. This day, the first in my life and GOD DELIVERED ME! I know how Abraham felt.

It seems to me that you have to pay a price in order to overcome that thing that your parents gave you. It might not be anger. It can be another spirit. Maybe it is lusting. Amen. I heard Brother Campbell this morning mention about pornography. Some of the young people are addicted to pornography. It is a SPIRIT. It is a SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL that would cause someone to want to look at a picture of a naked person and get a thrill out of looking at a picture. Huh? Get a thrill out of looking at a picture. I tell you brethren, young people, young and old alike, I wouldn’t live with that spirit for one day. I would rather die than to know that a spirit like that is controlling my life. Because these spirits are designed to destroy you. YOU CANNOT – I heard Brother Denton. I heard him. Did you hear it? AMEN! He said “HE WILL NOT BE A LOSER!”

If you – if pornography has any power over your life – you are a LOSER. You cannot be an overcomer with a pornographic problem. You have to GET RID OF IT! Amen.

Let us read. I forgot to read the Word. Turn to Ephesians for me. Start at Chapter 3. Let’s read a few verses that we can understand the whole thing.

Eph 3:9 “And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:”

10 “To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,”

What is he talking about? He said that some of the devils that fell from heaven and created human devils; that they have not been conquered. Amen. They have not been conquered and that the principalities and the powers are going to be taught by you, THE CHURCH, the manifold wisdom of God. AMEN!

Satan does not believe it. He looks at us and he scorns us. You know – ‘look at you, you little nothing. You piece of earth. You who are so subject to carnality and to the filth and the mire of the world. You can’t beat me. I am a mighty, proud, beautiful angel.’

Pride – THIS IS WHAT GOD IS DOING! God is humiliating Satan by you. God is doing it in a way that – HE IS NOT GOING TO DO IT —- YOU HAVE TO DO IT!

He puts the tools before you. He said, “All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.” And He said, you go and preach the gospel, don’t be afraid of preaching the Gospel, because I – saith the Lord God – I have all power and I give you the authority to preach the gospel. If you have to go into Hell, go into Hell and preach the gospel. NO MAN CAN TOUCH YOU UNLESS YOUR GOD AGREES WITH IT. If He agrees with it, it is Good – let them do it. Amen.

So He said, that to the principalities, THIS IS THE GREAT MYSTERY, that to the princes and the palities and the rulers of the darkness of this world. AMEN.

I remember Frank, he loved to say “cosmo kratoros”.  Yes, the “cosmo” – the world powers. AMEN. He said, to ALL you world powers – I will TEACH YOU SENSE – BY THE CHURCH. BY THE CHURCH!

So then, when Moses and Elijah, who were part of the Church, but knew that something else would have to happen besides the powers that they had, came to Jesus on the mount of transfiguration and said, “Tell me, tell, me about this death; this burial; and this resurrection! What is it going to do for us?” Hallelujah! Amen!

You know, I think Jesus told them a little, but he said to them, “YOU” listen to the Church! Because God ordained that the people – look at us! We are just poor wretched people. Not better than anybody else. But guess what? We have tools that no people ever on earth ever had. God says that in the end of time He will give us a tool named “Michael” the arch angel. He says He will give us Michael as a tool, that when we call for the impossible to be done, it will be done by Almighty God. He will send a Mighty Angel – to break up the rocks and to rend and to deliver us.

You must believe God. We must become believers. I just pray that tonight when we get out of here that we will have something NEW in us that was never there before. AMEN.

I believe that God’s program is hastening on. Hastening on! God is holding back the devil all right. Do you know why He is holding back the atomic weapons? And the terrorists can’t get it to put in our cities? Do you know why?

BECAUSE HE WANTS YOU TO BE READY! HE IS GIVING US TIME! He is giving us time to be ready. Our hearts should cry out to God and say – God, we shall not be denied. WE SHALL NOT BE DENIED. We will be ready. Because You speak the Word and we will be ready. Because we desire it. He says whatever you desire, just ask and it shall be done. Just ask and it shall be done.

So we find – we are going to read a bit further here now. Verse 11. Here it is – to the principalities and powers, the CHURCH is going to preach:

Eph 3:11 “According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:”

God made a purpose and that purpose is in Christ Jesus our Lord; that you and I and you and you and you and you should be like Jesus at a certain time. Amen. And that we are going to be like Jesus together. It’s not going to be the one over here and the big me and the small you. No, no. We are coming together. The harvest is going to be reaped together so that as a mighty force we will be able to move through the world.

The only thing – do you know what is wrong? That God’s time is waiting on us. But if we should get the message tonight and begin to move in the things of God, God will begin to lift us. Amen. And the lift that you get, it will cause others to be lifted. Don’t you understand? Amen. It is rapture time. It is rapture time. God is rapturing the Church; bringing them up closer into the heavenlies. Do you see? And He showed us all of this, because He was here and we could see Him walking higher than everybody else.

Now listen to this:

Eph 3:12 “In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.”

In whom – we are talking about Christ Jesus – Yeshua Hamashiach. Do you hear the Word he used – ACCESS – access to what? Access to the things that He has prepared for you. Amen. Do you have access to it already? All you have to do is to take it. You take it by believing and you believe by His Faith. Not by your faith – he said, the faith of Him.

Eph 3:13 “Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.”

Wherefore – means because of all this. Okay, do we suffer for one another? Do we suffer for the Church? Is it good doctrine to believe that some of the sufferings that we undergo is for somebody else besides ourselves? IT IS! It is, because through one man’s suffering – he will get knowledge and strength to help others. SO – we suffer for one another. When God calls a ministry, God calls a ministry to suffer for the people. Amen. The ministry, He says, is bringing you into a place where you will be priests and kings. A priest is one who stands between God and the people. Right? And a king is one who will reign and rule. Well, we will reign and rule with Him to be part of that priestly person, or in that dimension you must suffer.

So don’t count it as some great thing that is coming against you when you suffer. Because when you suffer for Christ’s sake, you gain height in God. Now, it is coming down to the true thing that he wants to say.

Ephesians 3:14 “For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,”

Ephesians 3:15 “Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,”

Ephesians 3:16 “That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;”

You see, the problem is in the inside. The problem is inside. Whenever you find yourself behaving like somebody else that you knew, or somebody that you didn’t know; then stop – and say “My God, deliver me from this ancestral spirit. Amen.

Ephesians 3:17 “That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,”

Ephesians 3:18 “May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;”

Comprehend means to understand spiritually. In the natural we only have three dimensions. In the natural we only have three dimensions. How can you get length; breadth; depth; where does the height come from? You only have three dimensions in the natural, so what is going on? The only way that you see a fourth dimension is in the Spirit. I won’t draw it, but I’m going to ask you to imagine it. Imagine me drawing a big circle here,

 and this big circle is the Father. Another circle inside that circle is Christ. Another circle inside that circle – we are in Christ and Christ is in the Father. But the Father gave another dimension. He said that I am in you and you are in me. So that means that the Father is everywhere. See, the Father is around Jesus.

So there we find that fourth dimension that God says that you will “comprehend with all the saints; the breadth, what is the length, the depth and the height.” Now put yourself in the inner circle.

Okay! Now you are in Christ. If you go deeper in Christ, what happens? You will start to rise in the Father. ARE YOU WITH ME? The deeper you get into Jesus Christ – the more that you will discover the Father – the higher that you will rise in the Father. That is why you have depth and height. In other words, if the Father surrounds Jesus and you come out of Jesus, you are in the Father. If you rise in Jesus, you are in the Father. If you go down deeper in Jesus, you go higher in the Father.

What God is trying to tell us is that there is a dimension IN CHRIST that puts you IN THE FATHER. Now when you are in Christ, you do not do what you want to do anymore. But you only do what Christ wants you to do.

Then you say – “How do I get that?”

YOU SEEK IT! You seek it. In other words, there is someone who wants you to do something and you don’t just jump and get to doing it, but you ask the Lord. You pray and unless you get a word from the Lord; you don’t move. So then God will test you. Amen. God tested Saul and what happened to Saul? What happened to him? The prophet told Saul, “Wait for me here at Carmel. I’m coming to offer a sacrifice.” So God delayed the prophet. So there was Saul, tromping up and down, “Where is the prophet? Why is he not here? Doesn’t he know that I am the King? Shouldn’t he be here, according to our plan?” And he went on and on and on, until he offered the sacrifice. The moment he offered the sacrifice, here comes Samuel. God timed it and let Samuel delay and delay and delay (to test Saul) and he failed.

Now God is going to do the same with you. God is going to watch you to see if you are going to seek His face before you do what you want to do. So we are being asked by God to submit to the Spirit of Christ. Amen. Submit to the Spirit of Christ. Don’t move on your own. He is bringing us into a new dimension – and this is also the dimension of the overcomer. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO OVERCOME? You will be shocked to know. You have to overcome the church system, the Babylonish system. It is in you. It is part of you. It is part of every carnal man. You will feel like moving like the church moves. It is part of every carnal person. God Almighty wants you to overcome that piece of carnality. Overcome Babylon. But then, some of us, these are only words. We leave here and we go out and we operate and all of a sudden we forget everything that we learned here and we start going on. MAY GOD ALMIGHTY remind you whenever you begin to move like a Babylonian. Amen. Hallelujah! Because the spirits of Babylon will cause you to do things that are contrary to God. And you will think that you are doing right. And the more that you go into it; the more you continue into it; it is the worse that it gets. Amen. And so you get so deaf that you cannot hear God and if God speaks to you, you would say that it is the devil. And when the devil speaks to you, you say that it is God.

I told you of the time, how I went to a meeting of prophets and this great prophet got up and just began to curse me. He had never seen me in his life and he just started cursing me. And he starts telling them that ‘this man, duCille, he does not know anything about God. He has picked up some old, old teachings somewhere and then he comes to pawn it off on the people of God. Don’t listen to him, none of you listen to him.” All of the men there, except maybe three men, agreed with him. Remember, none of them know me, except the person who I went with. None of them knew me and he started to curse me.

I said to God, ‘Why is this man cursing me?’ I realized that the spirit that was in the man was not of God. Remember now, he got up and he put his hand like this and he said ‘I am a prophet of the Lord.’ That is how he started his speech. After he introduced himself as a prophet of the Lord he began to curse ‘duCille’. Well, other men there submitted to him. One particular man who I knew quite well, he joined the rest of them and he began to curse me. I sat down there through the whole meeting and we went for lunch and I came back and sat down. One man got up and said, ‘But I thought brother duCille would have left. I don’t know, from the way he was treated, I thought he would have left”

I said, “No.”

The reason is that he was cursing me that I might leave. It was a spirit that wanted me to leave there. I decided to sit down on top of that spirit. So I never left. Then I began to look at the Word of God. God told me that about the year 2000, that there would be great destruction in the church. As a matter of a fact, He showed me that it would be destroyed all together. Babylon. I call it Babylon, because it is a mixture of God and the devil. It doesn’t mean that somebody in there doesn’t belong to God. But there are slaves in Babylon. It so happens that this destruction, this explosion, it occurred and we never saw it. We never understood it. We didn’t understand it. But what it was is that the church was destroyed. The church had fully turned over to Satan. We have families there. But the church had completely turned over to Satan. I’ll tell you what was the sign of it. The sign of it was the “Toronto Blessing.” That was the sign of it. People flattened on the floor, means that they are taken by an evil spirit. When that starts happening, you cast the spirit out.

Now you remember with Jesus, when Jesus was called to cast the devil out of this boy, that the spirit threw him to the floor and tore him? Jesus said, “Come out of him.” Well, this is the thing that happened around that time. In the year 2000, this thing was completed.

But then we had a spirit of supernatural functions. Men rose up and they were prophesying and they were prophets. There were great prophets – there were four men that became the great prophets of the United States and some of the world.  One was John Wimber, the head of the Vineyard church. He could call you and tell you what you are thinking and tell you about yesterday and tell you about your house and so on and so and so. But that wasn’t necessarily God. So these things happened and God showed me the destruction of the church. WELL, it was undercover. IT WAS UNDERCOVER.

Yesterday, a few days before, I began to hear a few things. It has come out in the Los Angeles Times that so many of the church men are in homosexuality; so many are in pornography; so many are in… And it is amazing that the foundations of all of that big thing that you see going on all over the world; it is all exposed. But it didn’t happen yesterday. It happened from a way down there and we were all blind to it. Amen.

Now, I am saying then, that what God is saying, that we who used to submit to that thing. We who used to submit to it must realize that we were submitting to a spirit of divination. Yes. There needs to be repentance. Before you can overcome that spirit. That spirit has been fed to you. That spirit has been ministered to you. Remember that God said, “…the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life.” (John 6:63) Every one of those spirits that have been ministered to the people of God – the people of God has to turn and reject that thing. You have to reject Babylon and all that it stands for.

Somebody says, ‘But my church is a nice church.’

‘I have a lovely pastor.’

If you have a lovely pastor, go and repent of that lovely pastor; because as a pastor, he is going against God. He is anti-christ. He is taking the place in your life where Christ should be. For that, you can remember the story that Brother Campbell told you about the “Bird Woman”. Amen. Amen.

Yes! ‘Pray for me. Pray for my bird.’ ‘Pray for my dog.’

I saw where they have sunken so deep that they had the dog on television – saying that the dog is saved. One man – BLASPHEMY! He said the dog was filled with the Holy Ghost. Oh Yes! He had the dog there making some sounds there like he was talking in tongues. (big laughter) They have all fallen. It is a fallen system. It is a fallen system that we are in.

COME OUT! FLEE FROM AMONG THEM! FLEE FROM AMONG THEM!

Because when Abraham reasoned with Christ and said – ‘If there are ten righteous people, would you save Sodom and Gomorrah, the city of the plagues?’ God said, ‘If there were ten, I would save them.’ Amen. They are not going to be saved.  The time is very short when fire judged them, just like the fire in Sodom and Gomorrah. It is only fire that God will use. Whenever there is homosexuality, fire is used.

Let me tell you something about homosexuality. It is not an ordinary sin. They are saying that if homosexuality is a sin, then all of you are sinners. Didn’t you sin at one time? Therefore we are all one in sin.  NO! NO! NO! This sin is inside of the Body and it changes the body. Because when the spirit comes into a man, the man becomes effeminate. I have seen men begin to grow breasts. I have seen them with their hips; their hips grow out. I have seen them when their voices change. (big laughter) Yes. It is not really humorous. It is a horrible thing to see a demon spirit take hold of a man and change his voice.

I had a man to deal with. I had a man to deal with. We were very close and he began to change. When I saw the change come over him, I said, ‘maybe you should try to get a girlfriend. Get a girlfriend and see if you can save yourself from this thing.’ We agreed that he should get a girlfriend, so we went and talked to this young lady you know. He was a fine looking young man. She was interested in him and so on and so forth. Then he held her hand one day. You know! He came back to me and he said, ‘man it was a horrible time. He said when he held her hand, he felt like he was holding on to a snake – and it sent cold chills through his body just to hold her hand.’

Yes, his whole metabolism seemed to have changed. The spirit took over his body. Amen. Amen. It is like when Christ comes in the temple, Christ changes you desires. Christ changes your way of thinking. Christ changes your way of operating. So, when a devil comes in, he takes hold of the mind. He takes hold of the emotions. The man’s emotions were so twisted that when he held a ladies hand, he felt like he held a snake. Then he came back and he was explaining to me this awful thing. Finally the devil intervened; when I was encouraging him and pressing him on; to say ‘you go hold her hand again and you know you will overcome this thing.’

He was trying his best, so he was going to write her a letter. So he wrote her to tell her how much he loved her; how much he would love to have her as his wife – and all that sort of thing that he wrote.  Then he wrote his sister to tell his sister that ‘I don’t care about that girl at all. You don’t have to worry about me and that girl. I don’t care about her. She is just nothing.’ So he took the letter for his sister and put it in her envelope; and put the letter for her into his sister’s envelope and mailed them. That broke the whole thing.  I couldn’t hold him any longer. He just ran off and become a full-fledged homosexual.

Can a homosexual be changed? YES! Jesus Christ is able to change anyone. The lie that they are telling each other and the lie that they have sold to the scientists and the lie that I heard repeated in the election that has passed. They asked President Bush a question and he couldn’t answer it straight. Because if he said anything against that lie – they would say that he is uneducated and he is a dummy and whatever else. He couldn’t answer it straight.  The question was – the homosexuals; that God made them homosexuals and they can’t do better, so we have to give them a certain amount of latitude.

It is a lie. God never made a devil!

God never made a homosexual!

You had better take that and make sure that you know it. God never made a homosexual! God never made a devil!

So you have to overcome the world. You have to overcome the world. Do you know why I am speaking like this? The day will come when I will preach what I am preaching here and they would come in and arrest me for discrimination and bigotry. And the only way to go is to be arrested. You are not going to agree with them. You are overcoming the world and all its wickedness. But they are making laws and the homosexuals are pushing these laws. That is the reason why a political party; you could not vote for this political party and be guiltless. You would have voted for homosexuality. You would have voted for murdering babies. You would have voted for stem-cell, which is the murdering of human fetus’ to produce a cure for somebody else. All those of us who voted for that, must go home tonight and ask God for forgiveness. For God is able to forgive you. Without that, you will not have overcome anything. All of those who don’t agree with me must also repent. (laughter) (Big laughter)

Well Praise God. Praise God. YES – we have to overcome the world. Remember we are talking about the fourth dimension, what we call the new – creation man. It is not impossible to get to the place where nothing bothers you.

I asked God, ‘Then how can I beat the devil at his work? How can I overcome the devil?’

He said, ‘Want nothing. If you don’t want anything, if you don’t have any desires – the devil can’t tempt you. You are drawn away by your lusts.’

When you desire something, when you want something, that is how the devil tempts you. So God is speaking to us. He is speaking to a people – I have never heard him speak to a people before. All of this ministry that God is giving to you – God is not giving them to you for themselves. It is for you. It is for the Body.  The ministry is expendable, but the Body is eternal. Hallelujah! Amen. In other words – God is saying to us, IF YOU CAN TAKE THE WORD OF GOD AND YOU CAN PUT IT IN TO YOUR HEART – PUT IT INTO YOUR MIND FIRST. Then you ruminate, you chew it again and it gets down further and it gets down into your heart, so that it becomes a part of you – so that you begin to live the Word. So that whenever you begin to touch anything, a Word would come to you. Amen. So that you know where you are right, to where you are wrong.

Remember the scripture: So that you might –

Eph 3:18 “May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;”

Amen.

You must come to that fourth dimension – or you will not be an overcomer. – YOU WILL NOT BE A PART OF THAT COMPANY.

Do you understand brethren? If we could just start a new sheet tonight and say, ‘Lord God, I want to be like Jesus.’ Yes!

Do you have a question sister?

Question: “Are you saying that in order to get to the fourth dimension, you will have to go through suffering and the suffering would be from obeying the Spirit?”

Brother Cecil: “Yes!”

Question: “Obeying the Spirit would cause probably suffering in your life.”

Brother Cecil: “Yes!”

Question: “If you are trying to overcome, you will suffer in your overcoming?”

Brother Cecil: “Yes!”

Question: “Okay. That’s going to the Fourth Dimension. Then you say to desire nothing? Now do you mean not to desire material things? How do you be comprehensive?”

Brother Cecil: “You have one great desire. That desire is to be like Jesus Christ.”

Question: “Okay, but I’m talking about your desire for your kids. Worldly things. Because there are certain things that you do desire for your children.”

Brother Cecil: “You desire that your children be like Jesus.”

Question: “Right.”

Brother Cecil: “Start changing all of your desires. Look here! You don’t have time to make your children Doctor’s and Lawyer’s – unless they be far on the way and they have just the last semester or two.”

Question: “No, I’m not talking about that. You want your children to behave in a certain way, as a desire and there is a lot of times that the enemy works against you and it becomes a contention and I think sometimes you can fall into sin, because you can get into contention – the things that you desire for your children.”

Brother Cecil: “But I’m telling you – whatever you desire for your children, you have no power to make them do it – to make them be what you desire. The only power you have is with God. You have with God a Divine Strength, called Blood Covenant. You have a blood covenant with those people and you go to God and say, ‘God, I have a blood covenant with my boy, or with my girl and I see them going to wrong way. You alone can bring them back.”

DON’T TRUST YOUR POWERS OF ARGUMENT! DON’T TRUST THE TRICKS THAT YOU CAN DO TO GET THEM IN CHURCH OR WHATEVER! TRUST GOD! And God will bring them in by the power of prayer & the power of faith in God Almighty.

I don’t know of one person that I set my heart upon who should know Jesus, who has not come to know Jesus. If your heart is set upon them, as a matter of a fact – you should be so comfortable with God that you should not even feel – you should not even have any trouble. You see them going down into Hell – have no problem with it. Because God will pluck them from the depths of Hell even to the highest Heaven because you believe. BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE! Hallelujah!”

Question: “So our desires will depend upon our faith?”

“You know, I had faith for about 30 years, for my children to come back to God. Because when they were 19 – 20, they were in the church; they were with us; they were preaching; they were doing everything. All of a sudden – the world took them.  And they just went to the depths – not all of them. But the point is that they were not with us in God. We decided to turn our backs upon everything and trust God. I mean, when I heard that Carl turned to God, – because he was the worst one – When I heard that Carl turned to God we had to take the plane to go down there to see if it was true. (laughter) When we found out it was true, we had to still trust God, to take him up higher. The blessing is, that what we thought he did not listen to – he is preaching all the way. We thought he wasn’t listening to us. But it seems to have been hidden deep in his heart. Now we have the blessing of seeing him come. And he is getting at his other brothers. Oh yes. He is getting at them – although they doubted it. You know, they thought he was bringing off a master trick. They have since been convinced. We believe that all three of them will move towards God.

SO DON’T DOUBT GOD! TRUST HIM! Hallelujah! Trust Him! Praise God.

So we are coming into the Fourth Dimension. So ask this question? Is it God’s will that you should be like Jesus in the earth – flesh and blood? Hallelujah! That is where you differ from the Baptists. You differ from the other churches. Even the Pentecostals don’t believe that you can be like Jesus now. But Jesus says that you can be like Him. I’ll read a passage for you. Let us turn to I John:

1Jn 3:1 “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.”

Can you imagine that? That is not the children of God. It is the “huios” which is the matured son of God. That’s the name they used for Jesus. It says “what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God:” Let me explain what a Son of God is to you by taking you to another passage. There is nothing like describing scripture with scripture. Turn to Romans 8:

Rom. 8:14 “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”

Sons of God, “huios”, are you with me? To be, to get to that place; that Fourth Dimension; you have no problem but to listen to the Spirit. Whatever the Spirit tells you to do – you do it. Where ever the Spirit leads you, you go.

You say “Brother Cec, sometimes I don’t know if it is the Spirit, or if it is my own mind.”

That is the time that you learn. Hear this one please! If God knows that if you believe it is the Spirit, you are going to do it – God will not allow the devil to deceive you. Come on now.

I am naïve. I am naïve. Anything that my heart tells me is the Spirit is wanting me to do – I will do it. So my heart tells me that it is the Spirit of God telling me to jump over the precipice and I rush to the precipice with all my heart, because I know it is God. He is going to stop you. He will not allow you to go over that precipice. Do you understand? You cannot serve God with a false heart. You have to have a true heart – that when you believe it is God, you really believe with all your heart. God says, if any man desires to know the truth, it is the responsibility of God to tell him the truth. You have no problem! You have no problem!

Then, the next thing that happens is that God will see to it that He speaks to you. For if you hear a voice and you believe it is God, are you with me? You hear a voice. You believe it is God. Act upon it. If you believe it is God, have no fear! God will stop you if it is not God. Because that is what His Word says. Isn’t that simple? Boy! I wish you could get that lesson! That is a very, very important lesson. You must be true in your heart. Don’t deceive yourself. You must be true in your heart.

Okay, now let’s go on.

1John 3:2 “Beloved, now are we the sons of God and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.”

We look at each other. We don’t see any Son of God there. We see a wretched fellow, struggling person. We don’t see the Son of God. But that is inside there. Amen. He said – NOW we are the Sons of God!

I John 3:3 “And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.”

You cannot be doing sin and at the same time be hoping to be a Son of God. You are not fair. You are unfair.

If you are doing sin, you cannot be hoping to be a Son of God. You must stop doing the sin – and then you start hoping God will bring you into His Kingdom.

I John 3:4 “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”

5 “And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.”

So if you are IN CHRIST – you have NO SIN. Do you hear me? There are TWO THINGS THAT MAKE YOU HAVE NO SIN.

  • The first one is that God says, ‘If any man sin, he hath an advocate with the Father, even Jesus Christ the Righteous.’ For he was revealed to take away all sin. So that means that if you fell into sin, that He immediately cleanses you. And after He takes away ALL sin, how much do you have left? NONE! Amen.
  • The next point of being IN CHRIST and having no sin, is that you have lost the desire to sin. Do you understand that?

The verb “committeth” is an active verb; that means that you must “deliberately” do it. It can’t be done to you. Do you understand? If I am walking here and I fall here, it only means that it is not a deliberate thing. Okay! Watch me now, how I am going to fall and I go and deliberately fall. Then I am responsible – whatever happens is sin. Sin is the act of doing wrong; going against God.

So then, to sin, you cannot. You cannot sin. You can’t say, well I’m going to sin tonight and then ask God for forgiveness tomorrow morning. You are not born of God. He that is Born of God cannot willfully deliberately commit sin. The word “committeth” means continuation. “Committeth” is a word that cannot be translated in English accurately; because “committeth” means that you committed yesterday; you commit today; and you have the intention of committing tomorrow. That is “committeth”, you see? Now the one word that I could use in English is “committeth”. If I say committing, it means that I am committing now; I might not be committing tomorrow. But “committeth” means that you have a nature to sin.

If you are born of god you have lost that nature!

I John 3:5 “And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.”

So you can’t say that you are IN CHRIST and you are committing sin. Do you know what I am saying?

3:6 “Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.”

How then can you describe a man who will be ministering; prophesying; seeing business; telling them where they are from; telling them what they want; why you are here; where you are from; and at the same time living in homosexuality? How would you describe him? (from audience – “divination & devils”). YES! The spirit he is functioning in cannot be the Spirit of Christ and they are talking about renewing him unto repentance. They use the Word, “If you see a brother fall into sin, then you who are spiritual will renew him unto repentance, seeing that he has fallen…..” IT IS NOT A BROTHER FALLING INTO SIN! It is a SINNER falling into God’s business. (laughter). Anyhow, that is what we have been seeing. I told the brethren, I said, ‘you see that man there? He is working by the spirit of divination. That man is working by the spirit of divination. He is telling people – who you are; what you are; where you are from; what you need; you have a sickness in your body and so it is healed now – in the name of Jesus.’

THAT’S NOT GOD!

We have several of them now and guess what? When you look at the churches that they minister to – thousands and thousands and thousands and millions of people they minister to and they become millionaires.

Let us leave, brethren! Let us leave BABYLON!

Let us leave the World! Let us give up the World. Let us turn to Jesus Christ! That is our only hope. O Praise Be To God! Hallelujah! You want to be up on the mountain top? You want to be like Jesus? You have just a few years left. Amen! If God doesn’t have mercy upon us; we don’t make it – AMEN! We don’t make it. I believe that in the year 2008 that the Sons of God will come forth. Let me put it better. That we must get to that mountain top between now and 2008. Because God says that there is going to be a great war in the earth, in which this beautiful land of ours will be marred and every other country on earth will be marred and WE,

HE WANTS TO HAVE A PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BE MARRED; who will be moving according to the Spirit of the living God; who will be the only salvation in the earth; the only people who will have their wits together – who will be able to save the rest of the world. That is what you are here for.

That is why God is bringing couples together; to strengthen you. That is why young people, your hope is in God; that unless you find the husband of wife that is ordained of God for you – do not marry.

I didn’t hear many amens? Maybe you’ll get frightened. But if you want to be married so badly that you will go against God – then you have made yourself a LOSER. Are you with me? Anyhow, some losers win after a while, so I’m not really condemning you for that; because you can lose now and win tomorrow. Now don’t lose today in order to win tomorrow. You may never make it. But I am saying to you that God MUST – MUST have a people; and if you are not part of that people, then you are outside in the wilderness with the “foolish virgins”. Are you with me? GOD MUST HAVE A PEOPLE! This is why we are having these meetings together & this is why we WILL NOT REST from now until onward – UNTIL – AMEN!

Let me close with a little thought. God laid out His time-table. Right? God laid out His time-table. From the beginning of time He had a plan laid out for the SEVENTH DAY. The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord. This is the seventh millennium. This is the day of rest. But He said He is going to finish the work that He had begun to make from the first day – He is going to finish it on the seventh day. So Adam must be finished! Adam must be completed! Adam must reach the heights of heaven on the seventh day! NOW – but He had details. God had details and those of you who are keen; because you know we have some keen minds here; those of you who are keen, go and take your Bibles and write down the feasts – the different feasts. Take the life of Jesus. Write down what He did everyday for the three and a half years. As a matter of a fact, He completed – hear me now – He completed the plan of God every year and every year for the three and a half years, He went to Jerusalem.  Amen. So that means – alright, let me come back to this thought.

So in April, in April, or in the month that they call Abib, He would go to Jerusalem and He would have the Passover. The Passover was where the Pascal lamb was offered. The lamb was offered as a type of the children of Israel coming out of Egypt. So the very day in the year that Moses came out of Egypt is the very day which Jesus Christ would go to Jerusalem. Now, this last year that He was going to Jerusalem, He was going there to become the lamb. He went there the exact day. God made the Jewish people to keep the time – the Jews became God’s clock. They kept the time right unto the day when Jesus Christ was crucified. He said, this night I will be offered up. I will drink this wine here with you and I will not drink it again until I drink it new in the kingdom. (Mat 26:28-29; Mark 14:24-25). And in the upper room, when He appeared before them, the first thing that He said was; do you have any meat? (Luke 24:41; John 21:5). They gave Him wine and bread and He drank it again with them. AMEN! New in the Kingdom!

Now, watch it now, so when He was about to leave, He said to the brethren, “Go, tarry in Jerusalem, until you be endued with power from on high. (Luke 24:49). That means to say that God had set a special day, that the Jews kept and the Jews called Pentecost. He had set a special day when the Spirit of God would enter into you on your journey to become a Son of God. Now hear me brethren. You cannot be a Son of God unless you have the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Did you know that? Brethren, did you know that? All right!

SO – What is the problem then? All the people who call themselves evangelicals; who resist the Baptism of the Holy Ghost; they cannot be Sons of God. Yet – God will frighten them and they will get filled with the Spirit. Huh? Did you know that? You can get out of yourself – and the Spirit of God come in. It happened to my sister-in-law, Frank’s wife. There was a storm coming; and if you have ever been in a storm, you can know how horrible that thing is. For hours and hours – wu-wu-wu-wu-wu-wu-wu-wu – your house is being shaken. So she saw the door shaking and she had been praying for the Holy Ghost for years. And she rushed to the door to hold the door, because she didn’t want the door to come off; and the storm blew the door off. It lifted her up with the door and flew her across the room and she started to speak in tongues. She can tell you, she spoke in tongues and her feet weren’t on the earth at all. (chuckle). She was being carried by the storm. Amen.

So it is possible, but here it is now; the last thing that I am coming to. If Passover came on the exact date; Pentecost came on the exact date; when is Tabernacles coming? I’ll open back my Bible. This is the last passage that I am going to read here. This is my proof that Jesus is coming in the end of the year, on the exact date of Tabernacles. There is only one little problem with that. We don’t know the exact date. That’s a little problem. It’s a small one, eh? Time has so changed. The Jews have lost their count. They are wondering if it is from 5,000 something, or what the time is really. They are not sure. But listen to this here. Look up the 21st chapter of Revelation. I will translate it for you just a little bit different than what it is here.

Rev. 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men,(God has tabernacled Himself within man) and he will dwell with (in) them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

The reason that I translated it that way is because I was reading it from Jeremiah 31:33.

Jer. 31:33 “…I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.”

Amen! Praise God! The Tabernacle has come. And so, now look at it with me. If – I said, ‘God, how are You going to stop the war? How are You going to save the world?’ He said He would come forth in His Sons and they will stop the war. Are you with me brethren? Now we know that if the war is going to start in the year 2008, that is cannot be long, because if it is long, do you hear me? No flesh would be saved. Are you with me? Some of the minds that are really tuned to God, to discuss that; if it is 2008 that the war is going to occur – God is going to have to make you come forth. You know we sing the song, O Mighty Christ come forth in me! If you are going to come forth at that time to take care of God’s creation; that man would not destroy. If that were the case, then, THEN it would seem to me that we have a time set when the Sons of God will come forth. Amen.

Now there are two comings. God is coming in you first to save the world. Afterwards He is coming in the world as King. So when everything is finished, peace has come, then God – Jesus Christ will come. After the war is over, the Sons of God will give their lives.

Somebody says, ‘But why would that be necessary? Didn’t Jesus Christ die all ready for all men?’

You have a neighbor brother. You have a neighbor, you talk to them sometimes. They know you. Let’s just say that Jim’s neighbor knows him very well. And they should take Jim and chop his head off – and the neighbors identify him, that my neighbor has been killed. AND in 3 ½ days, Jim should come back to the neighbor and say Hello! I am here. That neighbor would have to be a hell-bound, demonic person not to get saved. That is the last message that we are going to preach to the world. The Resurrection of the Church. And those who were unbelievers; Thomas said ‘unless I push my hand into his side I would not believe.’ And then he said “My Lord and My God!” Amen.

So the Sons of God giving forth their lives, at the end; because they are already immortalized and they know that they are immortal. They cannot die. They are actually going to beg them to cut their heads off. You have noticed that the cutting off of heads has become very popular nowadays? The Muslims are making it very popular these days.

I am closing now, please, don’t get tired of me.

Audience: “2008, is that the war of Armageddon?”

No, I don’t believe it is the war of Armageddon. I believe that the 3rd World War began on 9-11 and it will continue and get worse and worse and worse until it ends up in 2008 when God has to stop it.

Audience: “Well doesn’t the Sons of God have to minister 3 ½ years and doesn’t the tabernacles have to come before 2008? Isn’t it before that big war?”

I’m not understanding the question exactly.

Audience: “Won’t the Sons of God have to come forth before 2008? And minister 3 ½ years before that time? Before that war?”

I have questioned the situation myself. But I do believe that they will have to do their 3 ½ years before they are slain. But the war – we are going to be in our natural bodies, just as we are here; filled with the power of God just like Jesus Christ was in His 3 ½ year ministry. So, if we come forth in that time, then let us assume that God is not going to bring us forth until the LAST MINUTE – when it has to be done. Then that would be the year 2008 and we would have 3 ½ years from then to continue to minister to the world.

Audience: “Then Tabernacles would occur before 2008? The Feast of Tabernacles would occur before 2008?”

That is another point that I am not sure. You see, God told me that He will bring forth the people of God in their power to save the world. I know that sometimes God does things at the very last minute. So I don’t know if He will bring us before, or at that particular time. But I know that at that time, we will have the power to speak the Word and stop the atom bombs and stop everything.

Audience: “What was your reference in Jeremiah?”

It’s Jeremiah 31:31-35. Yes, that is the same thing that you will find in Hebrews Chapter 8 – both in the Old and in the New Testament.

Praise God!

God Bless You Brethren! I just pray to God that the Word must help you tonight.

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